tmthaproducer VS BOGProductions
Battle Results (tmthaproducer VS BOGProductions)
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tmthaproducer BOGProductions Member Votes 70% 6 6 Staff Votes 30% 1 0 Percentage 65% 35% Rating 4.04 4.03 Result Winner Loser -
M = Mix, A = Arrangement, C = Creative
User Producer M A C Rating John_Pierre tmthaproducer 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 John_Pierre BOGProductions 4.5 4.5 5 4.67 Flashwater tmthaproducer 4 3.5 3.5 3.67 Flashwater BOGProductions 4 3.5 4 3.83 mrsonistbeatsofficial tmthaproducer 3.5 3.5 3.5 3.5 mrsonistbeatsofficial BOGProductions 4 4 4 4 Jokeyent tmthaproducer 4 4 4 4 Jokeyent BOGProductions 3.5 3.5 3.5 3.5 BeasleyDropDat tmthaproducer 3.5 4 4 3.83 BeasleyDropDat BOGProductions 4 4 4.5 4.17 ELFREE tmthaproducer 3.5 3.5 3.5 3.5 ELFREE BOGProductions 4 4 4 4 Hanzo tmthaproducer 4 4 3.5 3.83 Hanzo BOGProductions 3.5 3.5 3 3.33 DJLocZmyth tmthaproducer 3.5 4 4 3.83 DJLocZmyth BOGProductions 4 4 4 4 Djsteph tmthaproducer 5 5 5 5 Djsteph BOGProductions 4.5 5 5 4.83 Djfranknice tmthaproducer 4 4 4 4 Djfranknice BOGProductions 3.5 4 3.5 3.67 QTheBeatDealer tmthaproducer 4 4 4 4 QTheBeatDealer BOGProductions 3.5 4 4 3.83 hottroundz tmthaproducer 4.5 4 4 4.17 hottroundz BOGProductions 4 4 4 4 FatFingers tmthaproducer 4.5 5 4.5 4.67 FatFingers BOGProductions 4 5 4.5 4.5
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88Battle Started : 2 weeks ago
Comments
24High scores here. Good Battle
Helluva battle right here!
This the last thing I'ma say...we not here because of a battle.We here because you dm another producer and instigated slander...you forgot how I met you..I had an issue with Jones on discord and YOU dmed ME...I never campaigned against anyone or anything I speak my mind OPENLY!That's the difference between me and scum like you ..you are a rat...go behind people and say shh...I'll say it your face though..It was never about a battle it's about you wanting the goalpost to move for you...but it never will..your not the only one did this dumb shh this happened at least 4 times the difference is now I can see you bitches coming though...sad shit is when it was me it's me but now u have someone else dominant and it's still me?Lol the buffoonery...my truth will always prevail fam...been doing it way longer and way more successful...you though?I wish u luck forreal...I'm not even mad at you...you just inexperienced and remind me of someone who threw 2 footballs and wanna get the game but not ready yet...work on your craft fam not gossiping though and you'll be alright... because you did dm Bog I know it because you talk too much and I listened...not because of a beat battle and campaigning against people just to line yourself up?Is corny as hell and again you can say all the dumb shit u want the truth is still the truth u dmed that kid....lol
Jokeyent - Can you take that talk privately, its getting exhausting
Bog...I didn't say I didn't like your beat I wrote imo you lost because 1.you used a demo sample packs sample and chorus....u used a drum loop except for the part where it drops and you have your programmed drums on a drop I listened...no hate it's honesty...mix tmt had the better mix... arrangement u used the sample pack and chorus correct? 3...I didn't see any build so I gave the vote to Tmt...and I did read what you wrote and established producers does use sample packs correct but this is not a song it's a battle correct?Jmo not negative it's the truth...and y'all way too sensitive...but I digress u dint have to worry about me judging you and your new found friend
Edited 04-10-2025 13:02 PM
Lol got Tmt... Just my preference...I have a pet peave for using demo sample packs and loop drums...like breh what did you do yourself?
Edited 04-08-2025 18:48 PM
So what if I used sample packs? The real skill comes in how you flip them, tweak them, and build something fresh. Plenty of top-tier producers work with loops and samples - because it's not about where the sound originates, it's about the artistry behind how it's used. If you think production only counts when everything is built from scratch, you're missing the bigger picture. Music is about creativity, innovation, and execution, not gatekeeping. Anyone can throw together raw sounds, but shaping them into something impactful? That takes vision. If you're out here judging tools instead of results, you might need to rethink your definition of production. At the end of the day, it’s about the final track does it hit, does it move people, does it resonate? That’s what matters.
I respect your opinion..Not a gatekeeper though>>just my honest opinion...I have no invested interest in judging yall battles..to be honest I need to stop because it doesnt make sense at this point...im one vote my vote counts as 1...my opinion counts as 1...but that doesnt negate the fact u used a whole orchestra of a sample demo pack and loop drums...lol ok maybe Im dillusional...the bigger picture of what?Music biz is dead and stinking because of this fam...so there is no future doing that jmo...this was justa commercial for sample packs..interesting you use the word gatekeeper though lol....you came up with that word yourself?Or did someone tell u that?Gatekeeping hilarious u took already mix and mastered sounds and Tmt mix is STILL better than yours fam...thats not hate..
Edited 04-09-2025 12:47 PM
Editing comments now?
Edited 04-09-2025 13:49 PM
So your whole argument boils down to 'I don’t like it, so it must be bad'? That’s not a critique, that’s just personal bias. Plenty of legendary producers have used loops and sample packs - what matters is how they’re used. You think pre-made sounds mean zero effort? Then explain why so many chart-topping hits started from sample flips and loop-based production. The truth is, the industry evolved past this ‘everything must be handcrafted from scratch’ mentality ages ago. If the final product is fire, it doesn’t matter how the elements came together. Talent isn’t measured by whether every sound was custom-made - it’s measured by how well the vision translates. If you can’t hear the artistry past your ‘pet peeve,’ that’s on you, not the music.
At first, I respected your take and entertained your opinion out of courtesy, but now you’re just rambling. If you want to cry over sample packs, go ahead - it won’t change a thing for me. I create, I innovate, I get results. What you think about it? Completely irrelevant. Your opinion doesn’t affect my success, my process, or my bag. If you really want to make an impact with all this talking, go find someone more established like Kanye West, Dr. Dre, Madlib, DJ Premier and The Alchemist and start a debate there, where it matters.
Ahhh Locksmith...I knew there was a culprit...I rest my case u got it fam... Nothing to argue about..you admitted you used a sample pack I don't have to like it fam my vote only counts as one...but just some advice don't let people gaslight you into campaigns got nothing to do with you fam...these dudes go into your dms it's NOT to put you on its for manipulation..I think u do have talent I just didnt think you won because of mix and creativity ...nuff said...some of these dudes bitter because they lose...that's not you...don't let suckaz gaslight u in your dms take all criticism with a grain of salt and keep doing you...I have no beef with u...I deliberately did this to expose the suckaz that manipulate behind the scenes...light years ahead of a lotta u dudes
Edited 04-09-2025 16:05 PM
Why is my name in your mouth? I told you everyone sees through your sh*t bro. So because someone else called you out on the exact same sh*t I did, and I liked it... I'm somehow the culprit??? Take that to someone who cares what you think. Someone "On Your Level" or come with real constructive criticism and maybe someone will want to listen.
Edited 04-09-2025 21:02 PM
Fact is... your the only one trying to manipulate! Every comment is... "I found something wrong" or that you don't like so you give the win elsewhere. Somehow always in favor of TM. Yet you told me you don't split the battle winnings while claiming you let him win by not battling more than 5 a month on purpose. All this came from your mouth to my ear personally. You can stay stuck in the past but things are different now. We don't have to go through the same thing you did to be good! The honest fact is... if you don't use both samples and your own stuff... your holding back your potential! The rest is only and OLD guildline! Even In your day It wasn't a RULE! Music has no rules only guidelines!!!! We just want honest constructive opinions. Not Old school gatekeeper manipulation. Funny how he used so many of the same words though I see why you'd assume I had something to do with it.
Edited 04-09-2025 22:11 PM
lol ..instead of pocket watching producers?You should be improving your craft bro..not instigating arguments on dms ....you should be banned for slandering...Ive never split earnings with anyone ...YOUR A LIAR...period...I dont speak to anyone you dmed me crying because I voted against you...I hope Fats reads your dms...your a crybaby and a gossiping girl ...mad because you dont win...or sell beats ...I mean what do you do exactly?? I dont NEED to split anything when I can beat damn near anyone even YOU or anyone I choose fam I guess u cant read...my standings doesnt equate to share...My only problem is lowering my standards arguing with rookies like you and BOg.. you just got a a blue check!You barely verified on here but have the most to say on here?Im stuck in the past but Im still getting placements you know checks? and you doin what I may ask?And again I didnt make the guidelines maybe thats your issue...but try making beats without MIX<ARRANGEMENT<AND CREATIVITY? Your honestly an idiot forreal and have no clue what your talking about but you bleeed hateraide...pocket watchers lmaoooo...you mad TmT better than you?Did you even listen to the battle or you just jealous Tmt keeps winning...meanwhile his mixes and arrangements just keeps getting better because he practices?While your dormant just mad on the sidelines...I get it fam...Split 100 dollars lol hilarious...I dont need to split anything I can win it myself if I wanted it...but the excuses...now its my fault I sat down and u still be losing wtf?LOl...funny shit you was kissing my ass when u 1st got here...but now you see you not that good you resort to this...good luck with that...Im not even active on here what you crying about?Lol...TMT<TMT<TMT<lol wheres your pom poms fam you a whole girl forreal...that dude got condos in your brain...Lmaoooo and to be honest?Its dudes like YOU killed shhh...mad trash with the most to say..Like you literally cant make a beat without A.i and you calling me old wtf>>>play an instrument Lock...any instrument...yall out here taking whole demonstrations and battling it and producers are going yay?Yea maybe I am old thats why I dont battle anymore...I come from an era we at least dug for a sample...and programmed our own drums you know producing?Lol innovative you win...and for the record how I knew it was you fam?Words matter BoG has no use for the word gatekeep he hardly battles fam and he hasnt been here that long to say that then you show up out of nowhere lol and u not battling or selling beats just coming around hating on shh...you know who did use that word?You did in your dms to me so I knew from jump it was you fam...Bog took 2days to come at me for what I said in the battle and I spoke the truth...and he admitted he did so thats just my opinion...just like when everyone else gave bogus opinions...only difference I stand on mine and explain and if I cant?I dont vote at all because its not clear...what makes it clear is mix arrangement and creativity fool
Edited 04-10-2025 12:12 PM
I've known jokey a LONG time. I've NEVER seen him type this much at one time lol
Jokeyent - 1. Hate is not critique - Criticism involves analyzing something and providing feedback based on logic, preference, or expertise. Hate, on the other hand, is driven by negativity without offering anything constructive. 2. Music is subjective - Art, including music, is personal. What one person dislikes might be deeply loved by others. Just because someone hates it doesn’t mean it lacks value. 3. Haters rarely contribute - People who hate without logic often do so from a place of insecurity or personal dissatisfaction. Many times, they don’t create anything themselves, yet they tear down those who do. 4. Engaging with hate fuels it - Studies show that responding emotionally to negativity often feeds the hater’s desire to provoke. A confident, fact-based response - like the one I gave earlier - shuts it down. 5. Most successful artists faced rejection - Nearly every famous musician was criticized before they gained recognition. The Beatles were rejected by multiple record labels, and Billie Eilish was told her style wouldn’t work. Music evolves, and real artists push forward despite the negativity.
Jokeyent - All that talk and you saying nothing
BOG, respectfully bro, constructive criticism is not an obligation on here, it's optional. Just because someone does not offer you constructive criticism does not mean it's "hate." BTW, 'Hate' stems from jealousy, and I'm not taking a shot at you when I say this, but dude ain't jealous of you. in fact, if you know anything about him, he's pretty passionate about building this community up. That said, he does offer constructive criticism but he's pretty selective about who he offers it to. I'm a beneficiary of his constructive criticism and have been for nearly 2 decades. he and i both been battling online for nearly 2 decades. we know what we are talking about. but bottom line, if jokey fucks with you, you get a whole different side of him. him not liking that you used a sample pack don't make him a hater. he and I are from an era of when producers had to dig crates for samples. now of course, we had no choice because sample packs did not exist back then. I personally have nothing against sample packs as long as you are taking it to the next level. I don't usually know when someone is using a sample pack, but jokey has an ear for that. he wouldn't say anything if he couldn't tell you used a sample pack so that means you gotta get a little more creative if you gone use them. Try adding effects, mixing up the arrangement, adding more instrumentation or just chopping it up (like we did in our era). now that's my constructive criticism. I didn't have to say nothing, but I chose to. I hope you get the difference now.
Edited 04-10-2025 13:40 PM
I can explain to Fat how much sh*t you talked about him too! And Jones as well as anyone who stayed on beat promoters for more than a day! Like JP said you open up to some more than others. But you stayed pocket watching Jones for a couple years! I did for a couple months. Just like I sat back and watched what you did. Difference is you stayed on to keep hatin! We didn't have that conversation though or the one about how sick you were of buybeats and the people who run it... right after Fat "asked you what you thought about beat pass" and you told him NO but he went with it anyways. Back when I asked you to stay because I can see the potential buybeats has! I've tried to bring 4 different people whom are better than me over but they never converted over because you have some kinda wait-list on when someone deserves to win a battle. Your not listening to the music your listening for a flaw to exploit and you make it known in your comments to have others follow. Now... You "retired" but your still here talking on every battle with nothing to say. JP is right... nobody is required to give constructive criticism. But you make it to obvious it's only hate when you have to comment on every battle and only say I didn't like something! Hating doesn't have to be directly from jealousy of an individual. It can be that hate stems from the fact we don't have to dig though a crate the same as others did so... anyone who didn't do what Jokey had to gets hate, hence the term gatekeeper comes in. If your vote is only one vote... why does anyone need to know whom you voted for????? On every battle!!!!! Words are important and some never mean nothing! You claimed to be the Goat when I got here and I assumed you weren't lying. It didn't take long to find out your crooked mindset and that I don't want to be like you! AI????Thank you!!!! I take that as a compliment since I don't use AI to make music.
Edited 04-11-2025 12:19 PM
Locksmith i can't bro this some mumbo jumbo...Fats never asked me shit lol...my opinion with Jones and beatpass was public it was in discord and I have no beef with anyone your a girl...but again arguing with you makes no sense to be honestly I'm not active?And your going nowhere...the whole argument is stupid because all I did was cast a vote but honestly now reading this?Your right I will no longer vote on any battles ...I will leave my crooked mind set and focus on me and we'll you?Will hopefully flourish correct?You win...I won't comment anymore it's pointless...at the end of the day though Lock?You dmed Bog that's a fact...Bog doesn't know how old I am fam or how long I been here...you campaigned point blank period
Edited 04-11-2025 12:55 PM
BOG! YezzziR added this one of yours to my profile Playlists! FIRE!🔥
BOG that's a vibe right there!!! TM THAT'S HARD! man this was tough
Thank you 🙏